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From: [e-mail] (Paul Brooks)
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Subject: Re: Why connect error?

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Chris P Murray) writes:
|[e-mail] wrote:
|
|then try:
|
|  sockfd = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, 0)
|  If (sockfd < 0) Then
|     MsgBox ("Open socket error!")
|  End If
|
|(Note the 'If (sockfd < 0)' test should be '< 0' not '<= 0' as it could
| return fd 0 is you've close stdin)

If we assume this is Windows Sockets being worked on here, then this is
incorrect. In Windows Sockets, the value returned for the socket it
is _not_ necessarily a simple integer - it could have _any_ value, except
the manifest constant INVALID_SOCKET (== all '1' bits). Testing for
negative numbers won't work in general, because the SOCKET type is unsigned,
for a start. If you are putting it into an 'int', its possible to falsely
conclude that socket failed, when it actually succeeded, half the time.

    The correct sequence  (in C) is:

    SOCKET sockfd;

    sockfd = socket(....);
    if (sockfd == INVALID_SOCKET)
        MsgBox("open socket error");

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From [e-mail] Sun May 18 17:54:04 1994
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From: [e-mail] (Ivan Clark)
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Subject: Re: alt.winsock.binaries???

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Harsh Kalra) says:
>
>In article <2qv4hk$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Nickolas) says:
>>
>>Hello people,
>>
>>   I was thinking how  about making a group for binary posting?
>>It would better for some one who wants to release there winsock
>>software. Just a thought ;)
>>
>>    [e-mail]
>
>I second that.  What is the procedure of setting up new newsgroup, anyway?
>
>--Harsh Kalra

Perhaps I'm being dense, but...
what would make this separate from comp.binaries.ms-windows  ?
does winsock work for any other OS?

If not, then c.b.m-w seems to have a relatively low traffic rate.

Ivan Clark   |   [e-mail]
From [e-mail] Sun May 18 09:42:00 1994
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From: [e-mail] (Patrick Loney)
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Subject: A really basic question.  (Is it in the FAQ?)

     Okay.  I've read the winsock documentation and can see the links with
the BSD stuff rewriting an application that used to be on a unix box does
not look to tough.  However, there is one point I am still green on.  How
do I link my object code with the winsock.dll?

Pat Loney
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From: [e-mail] (Stephen Karp)
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Subject: Re: Finding IP Addresses...

In article <2r8hbt$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

>
> In article <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> writes:
>
> > Try 'host <hostname>', that ought to give you the numerical
> > address.
>
> Chameleon doesn't have a 'host' feature.  Also, some implementations
> need 'host <hostname.>' to return valid IP's.  What's needed is a
> WinDig (a la 'dig' for UNIX boxes).
>
> But, neither will work unless you have some form of nameservice
> available to you.  I get the impression that the original poster
> didn't, or else he would not have had the problems he alluded to.

I am having the same problem with chameleon. I do have a name server as
when I slip connect my macintosh I don't have any problem. But chameleon on
my pc does not recognize the same name server. Any ideas?
Stephen Karp  [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Winsock/SMTP/PC/mail question

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Jon Lewis) says:
>
>In article <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>>I have a connection to the Internet from my PC, but no POP (or
>>any other mail) server on my network. My mainframe host does
>>not presently support POP mail. Telnet, FTP, all the usual
>>stuff run fine directly from the desktop... but no mail. :-(
>>How can I get around this problem? Hardware is 486 33DX,
>>DOS 6.1, Win 3.1, winsock and tcpman.
>
>You're not quite specific enough about your situation.  Is your machine hooked
>into the net via ethernet and always on?  If so, you can run your own SMTP
>server.  I run SMTP, and POP3 servers on a machine in my lab on campus.  I can
>then read my mail in the lab or via POP3 from home over slip.

Yes, it is an Ethernet connection. The PC is in my lab/office, so it
is, or can be, up as needed. I have tried WSMTP but either it
isn't working right or I'm too dumb to figure it out. My original
thought was to do just as you suggest - run the SMTP daemon and
something like Pegasus Mail on my PC. So far, no luck.
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Subject: Re: Is Microsoft TCP/IP available via FTP

Sure, ftp.microsoft.com has a new TCP/IP driver that is
WinSock compatible but leaves much of your bases memory
intact!  It's called VXTCPIP...

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jim Williams) writes:
>I am running Winqvt  WfWG. In reading the documentation, the author says I
>need Microsoft TCP/IP if I am running under WfWG.
>
>Does Microsoft provide this product free to users of WfWG? If so, does anyone
>know if I can ftp somewhere to get it.
>
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Subject: Re: Number of Network Buffers message ??? (trumpet winsock)

Well, try editing your SYSTEM.INI file where it says
NetHeapSize and set it to 64.  Let me know if that fixes
the problem.


In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Diego Castano) writes:
>Hello,
>
>I am running the trumpet winsock under windows for workgroups 3.11.
>I am not running any of the network goodies from WFWs.  I have not
>been able to make them run.  I always get a "not enough memory"
>message when I try to run the network goodies.  They install fine but
>they don't run.  (this is not the question, but if you have any idea, it is
>welcomed)
>
>Now the question:
>When I have the trumpet winsock loaded and I run  winqvtnet a terminal
>session from winqvtnet it seems to hang.  The only common denominator I have
>found is that the "number of network buffers" message from the trumpet winsock
>windows says are less than what is desired.  It says :
>
>    "Warning - running with less than recommended
>     number of network buffers (10 of 16)"
>
>In this case it was 10 of 16, it has been more or less.
>
>Can anyone please tell me what this is all about and maybe give me a hint on
>how to get up to the recommended 16 network buffers?   I am running a 486
>DX2/66 NCR 3300 machine with 16M RAM.
>
>Thanks
>
>Diego.
>[e-mail]
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Subject: Trumpet Winsock and Network buffers

I am having a problem with Trumpet Winsock. I get a warning message saying
"Running with less than recommended number of network buffers (9 of 16)". When
this happens the system is very unstable and TCPman.exe may lock up. I have a
machine with 20MB of RAM but only 526KB of memory below 640KB and 20KB between
640KB and 1MB. I have a lot of device drivers (soundblaster card, CD-ROM,
Netware stuff, Smartdrive, etc.)

One strange thing I've noticed is that if I change my my autoexec.bat or
config.sys to change the available RAM below 1 MB the number of available
buffers changes. I can have 4, 6, 9, etc. buffers available. There seems to be
no rhyme nor reason to how these numbers change. That is, I may increase
available memory under 640KB and the number of buffers may go down or up.

Usually, if I play with it enough then I can get 16 buffers ... but everytime
I change something in config.sys or autoexec.bat I have to start over again.
It can take hours for me to find the right combination. I had it working and
then added a new windows driver for my ATI card (release 2.3 of the mach 32
drivers) and bang ... my buffers went from 16 down to 6. I have managed to
bring it back up to 9. Sigh.

Does anybody have a solution here.

Hugh Whalen                     | Where all men think alike, no one
Assistant Prof.                 | thinks very much
Management Information Systems  |                  - Walter Lippman
Faculty of Administration       |
University of New Brunswick     |

DISCLAIMER: Neither UNB nor I care what the other thinks.
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From: [e-mail] (Doug Mathias)
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Subject: WinTrumpet searching

I am running WinTrumpet under Windows for Workgroups with apparently no
documentation available. Although I can search newsgroup names to subscribe
to, I see no capability for searching within a subscribed newsgroup itself
by keyword? Is this so? Is there any newsreaders out there that can do this?

For example, MISC.JOBS.OFFERED is so huge, I don't have time to read all the
postings. How can I search through all the postings in double quick time? Any
suggestions, please?

I am barely Internet literate so please be technically gentle with me.

Nicki-SSC
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Subject: Re: need efnet server

ryker@enterprise wrote:

: Can someone give me an efnet irc server?
: ip address please

Yep

and is available via anonymous ftp from h.ece.uiuc.edu as
/irc/servers.940401.

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  ug.cs.dal.ca            2.8.14.moose Official CoD Sponsor. Halifax, Nova Scotia
  fox.nstn.ns.ca          2.7.2g     NSTN Inc, Halifax, Nova Scotia
  von-neumann.info.polymtl.ca 2.8.14.cp.w Montreal Polyserver
  castor.cc.umanitoba.ca  2.8.16.Wlps.Sln.Max200 University of Manitoba
  degaulle.hil.unb.ca     2.8.16.wallops University New Brunswick, Fredericton, NB
  clique.cdf.utoronto.ca  2.8.16.Wlp.Sln.Wzd University of Toronto
  irc.yorku.ca            2.8.16.WALLOPS York University's IRC Server
  io.org                  2.8.16     Internex Online

Mexico

  next00.mty.itesm.mx     2.8.12     ITESM Campus Monterrey, Mexico Hub
  irc.pue.udlap.mx        2.8.16     Universidad de Las Americas, Puebla

-----< South America >-----------------------------------------------------

Chile

  UNIRED                  2.8.16.U2  El primer irc-server de SUDAMERICA

-----< United States >-----------------------------------------------------

Alaska

  merlin.acf-lab.alaska.edu 2.8.16.mal-2 The Small Talk Stinks Alaskan Server

Arkansas

  irc.engr.uark.edu       2.8.16     Home of the Razorbacks

California

  irc.netsys.com          2815p2.rw+cp NETSYS COMMUNICATIONS
  nova.unix.portal.com    2.8.15pre2.rw Cupertino
  harp.aix.calpoly.edu    2.8.16     The SLOer than you server...
  irc.caltech.edu         2.8.16     California Institute of Technology
  B-w6yx.stanford.edu     2.8.16     From DC to Daylight
  w6yx.stanford.edu       2.8.16     From DC to Daylight
  hyperion.cs.ucdavis.edu 2.8.16dog3 University of California at Davis
  othello.ucdavis.edu     2.8.14cp   University of California, Davis
  ucsd.edu                2.8.16     Univ of Calif San Diego

Colorado

  irc.Colorado.EDU        2.8.16     Univ of Colorado Server

Florida

  excalibur.mlb.semi.harris.com 2.8.16 Warlord Server, Melbourne
  pegasus.cc.ucf.edu      2.8.16     University of Central Florida
  infrared.creol.ucf.edu  2.8.10+sw  University of Central Florida
  irc.math.ufl.edu        2.8.16     The Happiest Server on IRC

Illinois

  irc.acns.nwu.edu        2.8.16     Northwestern University, Evanston
  necromancer.ece.uiuc.edu 2.8.16    UIUC Client Server
  irc.uiuc.edu            2.8.16     University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

Indiana

  Irc.Indiana.Edu         2.8.16.atdp Indiana University Primary IRC Server

Iowa

  ircserver.iastate.edu   2.8.16.zephyr.atdp Iowa State Alternate Reality Server

Kentucky

  irc-host.ms.uky.edu     2.8.16     The Hole in the Rock Server at the Univ. of KY

Maryland

  irc.digex.net           2.8.16     Digital Express Group

Massachusetts

  world.std.com           2.8.16     The World @ Software Tool & Die
  berry.cs.brandeis.edu   2.8.10     Brandeis University IRC Server
  csa.bu.edu              2.8.15     Boston University, Boston
  husc10.harvard.edu      2.8.16     If we're up, then all is well ;>
  irc.mit.edu             2.7.2g     MIT Project Athena
  irc-2.mit.edu           2.8.16dog3 Mass. Institute of Technology, Cambridge
  wpi.wpi.edu             2.7.2g     Worcester Polytechnic Institute

Michigan

  hobbes.kzoo.edu         2.8.16     Kalamazoo College
  pegasus.ccs.itd.umich.edu 2.8.14+cp-dog3 An Inbred-Jed Production
  coyote.cs.wmich.edu     2.8.14     WMU,   Kalamazoo

Minnesota

  irc.tc.umn.edu          2.8.16     University of Minnesota, Twin Cities

Missouri

  sluaxa.slu.edu          2.8.16     St. Louis University

New Jersey

  hertz.njit.edu          2.8.16     NJIT Computing Services Department,Newark
  pilot.njin.net          2.8.16.pilot Rutgers Univeristy New Brunswick

New Mexico

  IRCServer.SantaFe.EDU   2.8.16     Santa Fe Institute

New York

  azure.acsu.buffalo.edu  2.8.16+2   University at Buffalo, Buffalo
  red-dwarf.cit.cornell.edu 2.8.16   The CIT IRC
  mcphy0.med.nyu.edu      2.8.16     The Mid-Manhattan Link
  colossus.cs.rpi.edu     2.8.16     Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute IRC Server
  netserv2.its.rpi.edu    2.8.16     Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy
  irc.rutgers.edu         2.8.16     NONE
  mothra.syr.edu          2.8.16     Syracuse University

North Carolina

  hobbes.catt.ncsu.edu    2.8.14     North Carolina IRC Server

Ohio

  slc9.ins.cwru.edu       2.7.2i.1   CWRU IRC Server

Oklahoma

  lincoln.ecn.uoknor.edu  2.8.16     SOONER HUB SERVER 2.8.16,  SERVING SOONERS

Oregon

  irc.csos.orst.edu       2.8.16     The Beaver Server of The Northwest

Pennsylvania

  irc.duq.edu             2.8.16     Duquesne University, Pittsburgh
  chestnut.chem.upenn.edu 2.8.16     University of Pennsylvania QUANYIN Server

Texas

  ra.oc.com               2.8.16     OpenConnect Systems Server, Dallas
  acme.etsu.edu           2.7.2g.ID.herm The Magical Realms Server
  irc.tamu.edu            2.8.16     Texas A&M University IRC server
  omega.tamu.edu          2.8.16     Da' Maroon Lagoon of Aggieland!
  dewey.cc.utexas.edu     2.8.16     UT's "I Repeat Class" server
  lonestar.utsa.edu       2.8.16     LoNeStAr Server at Univ of TEXAS at SA [UTSA]

Utah

  hamblin.math.byu.edu    2.8.11     Brigham Young University Math Dept

Virginia

  beta.cs.jmu.edu         2.8.16     James Madison University CS
  muselab.ac.runet.edu    2.8.16     Radford University
  poe.acc.Virginia.EDU    2.8.16     University of Virginia

Washington

  irc.eskimo.com          2.8.16jayk Eskimo North. Located in Seattle
  goren1.u.washington.edu 2.8.14.wall.ban.cp.users.(summon).slug.slime.rust We're better than you, so nyah.
  goren2.u.washington.edu 2.8.16.users.ban.wallops.dawg.food.woof We're better than you, so nyah.

Washington, D.C.

  eff.org                 2.8.16     Electronic Frontier Foundation, G. St NW

----< Version Information >-------------------------------------------------

Total    By Version      Count     Version

                           13      2.7.2g
                            1      2.7.2g.ID.herm
                            1      2.7.2g.Nono+4
                            1      2.7.2g.troy6+wallops
             17             1      2.7.2i.1

              1             1      2.8.9

                            2      2.8.10
              3             1      2.8.10+sw

              1             1      2.8.11

              4             4      2.8.12

                            9      2.8.14
                            1      2.8.14+cp-dog3
                            2      2.8.14+op
                            1      2.8.14.cp.w
                            1      2.8.14.moose
                            1      2.8.14.wall.ban.cp.users.(summon).slug.slime.rust
                            1      2.8.14cp
                            1      2.8.14w
             18             1      2.8.14yegg/argv

                            3      2.8.15
                            1      2.8.15+hh
                            1      2.8.15pre2.rw
              6             1      2815p2.rw+cp

                          104      2.8.16
                            1      2.8.16+2
                            1      2.8.16+Chef
                            1      2.8.16+Chef+Ircops_are_lame_froggies_uber_alles_fuck_the_finns
                            1      2.8.16+chef
                            1      2.8.16+hh
                            1      2.8.16.
                            1      2.8.16.Ace
                            1      2.8.16.N#1
                            1      2.8.16.NOTE
                            1      2.8.16.U2
                            1      2.8.16.WALLOPS
                            1      2.8.16.Wlp.Sln.Wzd
                            1      2.8.16.Wlps.Sln.Max200
                            1      2.8.16.atdp
                            1      2.8.16.cf2
                            3      2.8.16.dl1
                            1      2.8.16.dl1-UDP_SUX
                            1      2.8.16.mal-2
                            1      2.8.16.pilot
                            1      2.8.16.users.ban.wallops.dawg.food.woof
                            1      2.8.16.wallops
                            1      2.8.16.zephyr.atdp
                            3      2.8.16dog3
            132             1      2.8.16jayk

                            1      2.8.17pre10
                            1      2.8.17pre10+3
                            1      2.8.17pre8
 186          4             1      2.8.17pre8+V2

----< Other Servers List >--------------------------------------------------

These are servers which are not for general client use, or which have
'test' or 'experimental' in their title; these active servers are not
counted in the Version List above.

sifon.cc.mcgill.ca                  McGill University, Computing Centre IRC Server, 2.
irc.services.ca                     Canadian IRC Services Server
garnet.msen.com                     Msen IRC Test Server
jobe.shell.portal.com               Portal 2.8.x Test Server
service.de                          TU Muenchen
polaris.ctr.columbia.edu            Columbia University Testing
Irc-1.Indiana.Edu                   Indiana Experiemental IRC Server
note.mit.edu                        MIT NOTE server
service.rutgers.edu                 RUTGERS University Note Service
test.mines.u-nancy.fr               Ecole des Mines de Nancy, France
service.obspm.fr                    DL's Test Service
test.biscuit.mmws.astem.or.jp       Kyoto
cent1.lancs.ac.uk                   NONE
monitor.us                          The US IRC Monitor

----< Delete List >---------------------------------------------------------

These currently inactive servers will be deleted from the next list unless
they appear on the IRCnet again.

cairo.anu.edu.av                    Coombs IRCD (IRC's adopted home) ANU
polytech.ulb.ac.be                  Ecole Polytechnique (ULB-Bruxelles)
jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca              University New Brunswick, Fredericton, NB
eskinews.eskimo.com                 Eskimo North-Seattle
irc.lm.com                          Telerama IRC Server
irc.dknet.dk                        DKnet IRC Server
athens.caltech.edu                  California Institute of Technology
gsusgi2.gsu.edu                     Georgia State University, Atlanta the Olympic City
IRC-2.INDIANA.EDU                   Nickel.ucs.indiana.edu[129.79.10.5] 2.8.16+patches
hub.cs.jmu.edu                      James Madison University CS Hub
freedom.nmsu.edu                    New Mexico State U. NMSU SCF
old272.stanford.edu                 Stanford 2.7.2 Old Server
irc.stolaf.edu                      St. Olaf College, Northfield
mole.cis.ufl.edu                    Simulation Server
llull.math.ufl.edu                  The Happiest Server on IRC
lehtori.cc.tut.fi                   Tampere University of Technology
HpLyot.ObsPM.Circe.FR               Observatoire de Paris, Meudon
Hector.Labri.U-Bordeaux.Fr          Universite Bordeaux I
samos.aegean.ariadne-t.gr           University of the Aegean
areti.naval.ntua.gr                 N.A.M.E.  N.T.U.  ATHENS
cyprus.csd.uch.gr                   The Greek Server!
irc.datasrv.co.il                   DataServe LTD.
cdc835.cdc.polimi.it                Politecnico di Milano
sun.cisi.unige.it                   Universita' di Genova
sun02.iet.unipi.it                  University of Pisa, Italy
scpower2.sfc.keio.ac.jp             KEIO SFC IRC SERVER
totto.ics.kula.kyoto-u.ac.jp        Faculty of Integrated Human Studies, Kyoto Univers
siratuyu.ics.es.osaka-u.ac.jp       Osaka
hamlet.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp          OMRON Corporation, Kyoto, Japan
noc.uci.agh.edu.pl                  AGH Krakow, Poland
irc.tuzvo.sk                        TU Zvolen
irc.nchu.edu.tw                     Computer Center at NCHU, Taiwan, ROC
irc.csie.nctu.edu.tw                IRC of CSIE, NCTU, Taiwan, ROC
im.mgt.ncu.edu.tw                   IM/MGT at NCU, Taiwan, ROC
IRC.NSYSU.edu.tw                    IRC of National Sun Yat-sen University
NEWS.NSYSU.edu.tw                   IRC of National Sun Yat-sen University
ccms.ntu.edu.tw                     National Taiwan University


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Subject: where can I find voice chat?

I just got interested in getting a copy of voicechat, but I don't know where
it is located.  could some people please post where this program is located?

I also would like to know what kinds of problems people are having with this
program.  Thanks alot.

Ron Blancarte